Biography of Eleanor Talbot 1436-1468
Paternal Family Tree: Talbot
Maternal Family Tree: Margaret Pipard Baroness Lisle 1323-1375
1461 Edward IV marries Eleanor Talbot possibly
1483 Robert Stillington Claims Edward IV's Marriage to Elizabeth Woodville to be Bigamous
Before 12 Mar 1407 [her father] John "Old Talbot" Talbot 1st Earl of Shrewsbury (age 24) and Maud Neville 6th Baroness Furnivall (age 14) were married. He by marriage Baron Furnivall. They were third cousin once removed. He a great x 3 grandson of King Edward I of England.
On 06 Sep 1425 [her father] John "Old Talbot" Talbot 1st Earl of Shrewsbury (age 42) and [her mother] Margaret Beauchamp Countess Shrewsbury and Waterford (age 21) were married. She by marriage Baroness Strange Blackmere, Baroness Talbot. The difference in their ages was 21 years. She the daughter of [her grandfather] Richard Beauchamp 13th Earl Warwick (age 43) and [her grandmother] Elizabeth Berkeley Countess Warwick. They were second cousin twice removed. He a great x 3 grandson of King Edward I of England. She a great x 4 granddaughter of King Edward I of England.
Around Feb 1436 Eleanor Talbot was born to John "Old Talbot" Talbot 1st Earl of Shrewsbury (age 53) and Margaret Beauchamp Countess Shrewsbury and Waterford (age 32).
In 1449 Thomas Boteler and Eleanor Talbot (age 12) were married. She the daughter of John "Old Talbot" Talbot 1st Earl of Shrewsbury (age 66) and Margaret Beauchamp Countess Shrewsbury and Waterford (age 45). They were half third cousin once removed. She a great x 4 granddaughter of King Edward I of England.
On 07 Jul 1453 the Battle of Castillon, the last battle of the Hundred Years War, was fought at Castillon.
[her father] John "Old Talbot" Talbot 1st Earl of Shrewsbury (age 70) was killed. His grandson Thomas Talbot 2nd Viscount Lisle (age 4) succeeded 2nd Viscount Lisle, 2nd Baron Lisle. Margaret Herbert Viscountess Lisle by marriage Viscountess Lisle. On His son [her half-brother] John Talbot 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury (age 35) succeeded 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, 2nd Earl Waterford, 7th Baron Furnivall, 11th Baron Strange Blackmere, 8th Baron Talbot. Elizabeth Butler Countess Shrewsbury and Waterford (age 29) by marriage Countess of Shrewsbury Countess Waterford.
[her brother] John Talbot 1st Viscount Lisle (age 27) was killed. He the son of John "Old Talbot" Talbot 1st Earl of Shrewsbury.
Robert Hungerford 3rd Baron Hungerford 1st Baron Moleyns (age 22) and John Foix 1st Earl Kendal (age 43) were captured.
Before 1460 [her husband] Thomas Boteler died predeceasing his father John Sudeley 3rd Baron Sudeley who attempted to recover the property settled on Thomas' widow Eleanor Talbot (age 23).
Around Jun 1461, the record is very vague, King Edward IV (age 19) and Eleanor Talbot (age 25) were possibly secretly married by Bishop Robert Stillington (age 41). The marriage came to light after Edward's death. Bishop Robert Stillington provided the information to the future King Richard III of England (age 8) in 1483; Richard used the information to justify his succeeding to be King since Edward IV's children with Elizabeth Woodville Queen Consort England (age 24) were, therefore, illegitimate as a result of their marriage being bigamous and George Duke of Clarence's (age 11) children were barred from the throne as a consequence of their father's attainder.
On 14 Jun 1468 [her mother] Margaret Beauchamp Countess Shrewsbury and Waterford (age 64) died.
Mémoires de Philippe de Commynes Chapter 6 Section 8.
From the hour that King Edward IV (age 40) died, the King our master was informed, and took no joy in it. And few days after he received letters from the Duke of Gloucester (age 30), who had become the King of England, and signed Richard, who had caused the death of the two sons [Note. The Princes in the Tower King Edward V of England (age 12) and Richard of Shrewsbury 1st Duke of York (age 9)] of King Edward his brother. King Richard wanted the friendship of the King, and belived he would continue to receive the pension; but the King didn't want to respond to the letters, nor hear the messanger, and considered him very cruel and bad. The Duke of Gloucester had pledged allegiance to his nephew, considering him as his king and sovereign lord. However, shortly afterward, he committed this act. And, in the parliament of England, had degraded the two daughters of the said King of England and declared them bastards, on the pretext of the evidence of a Bishop of Bath (age 63) in England (who formerley had great credit with the King Edward then disappointed him, and held him in prison, and then ransomed himself with a sum of money) which Bishop said that King Edward had promised [Note. foy? ] marriage to an English lady [who he named] who he was in love with, to have his pleasure; and had made this promise in the presence of the Bishop, and, on this promise, slept with her: and did this to deceive her.
Nevertheless such games are very dangerous, [Note. tesmoing?] these signs. I saw alot of courtiers who, having the opportunity of such an adventure, would not have lost it for the sake of a promise. And this bad Bishop guarded revenge in his heart, for twenty years; but he is in [Note. meshut?]: because he had a son, who he loved very much, whom King Richard wished to do great things and to marry one of the two daughters, beneath their dignity, one of whom is now the present Queen of England (age 17) and has two beautiful children.
See Edward IV marries Eleanor Talbot possibly.
See The Princes of the Tower described as Illegitimate.
Dès l'heure que le roy Edouard fut mort, le Roy nostre maistre en fut adverty, et n'en feit nulle joye quant il le sceut. Et peu de jours après receut lettres du duc de Clocestre, qui s'estoit faict roy d'Angleterre1, et se signoit Richard, lequel avoit faict mourir les deux filz du roy Edouard son frère. Lequel roy Richard requeroit l'amytié du Roy, et croy qu'il eust bien voulu ravoir reste pension; mais le Roy ne voulut respondre à ses lettres, ne ouyr le messagier, et l'estima très cruel et mauvais: car, après le trespas dudict roy Edouard, ledict duc de Clocestre avoit faict hommaige à son nepveu, comme à son roy et souverain seigneur, et incontinent après commit ce cas. Et, en plain parlement d'Angleterre, feit desgrader deux filles dudict roy Edouard et desclarer bastardes, soubz couleur3 qu'il prouva par ung evesque de Bas4 en Angleterre (qui aultresfois avoit eu grant credit avec ledict roy Edouard, et puis le desappoincta, et le tint en prison, et puis le ranconna d'une somme d'argent) lequel evesque disoit que ledict roy Edouard avoit promis foy de mariaige à une dame d'Angleterre (qu'il nommoit)5 pour ce qu'il en estoit amoureux, pour en avoir son plaisir; et en avoit faict la promesse en la main dudict evesque, et, sur ceste promesse, coucha avec elle: et ne le faisoit que pour la tromper. Toutesfois telz jeux sont bien dangereux, tesmoing ces enseignes. J'ay veu beaucoup de gens de court qui, une bonne adventure qui leur eust pleu en tel cas, ilz ne l'eussent point perdue par faulte de promettre. Et ce mauvais evesque garda ceste vengeance en son cueur, par adventure vingt ans; mais il luy en meschut: car il avoit ung filz, qu'il aymoit fort, à qui ledict roy Richard vouloit faire de grans biens et luy faire espouser l'une de ces deux filles, desgradees de leur dignité, laquelle de présent est royne d'Angleterre et a deux beaux enfans.
Around 09 Jun 1483 Bishop Robert Stillington (age 63) informed a Council meeting that the coronation of King Edward V of England (age 12) could not proceed since he was illegitimate since his father's marriage to his mother Elizabeth Woodville Queen Consort England (age 46) had been bigamous since King Edward IV of England had previously married Eleanor Talbot at which Bishop Robert Stillington presided. The only witness being Bishop Robert Stillington.
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Kings Gwynedd: Great x 8 Grand Daughter of Owain "Great" King Gwynedd
Kings Seisyllwg: Great x 14 Grand Daughter of Hywel "Dda aka Good" King Seisyllwg King Deheubarth
Kings Powys: Great x 9 Grand Daughter of Maredudd ap Bleddyn King Powys
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Kings Franks: Great x 8 Grand Daughter of Louis VII King Franks
Kings France: Great x 11 Grand Daughter of Robert "Pious" II King France
Kings Duke Aquitaine: Great x 16 Grand Daughter of Ranulf I Duke Aquitaine
Great x 4 Grandfather: Richard Talbot 5 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 3 Grandfather: Gilbert Talbot 1st Baron Talbot 6 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Sarah Beauchamp Baroness Talbot
Great x 2 Grandfather: Richard Talbot 2nd Baron Talbot 7 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 4 Grandfather: William Boteler
Great x 3 Grandmother: Anne Boteler Baroness Talbot
Great x 4 Grandmother: Angharad Mathrafal
Great x 1 Grandfather: Gilbert Talbot 3rd Baron Talbot 8 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 4 Grandfather: John "The Black" Comyn 2nd Lord Baddenoch
Great x 3 Grandfather: John Comyn 3rd Lord Baddenoch 6 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Mary or Eleanor Balliol Lady Baddenoch 5 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 2 Grandmother: Elizabeth Comyn Baroness Talbot 7 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 4 Grandfather: William de Valence 1st Earl Pembroke
Great x 3 Grandmother: Joan Valence Lady Baddenoch
Great x 4 Grandmother: Joan Munchensi Countess Pembroke
GrandFather: Richard Talbot 7th Baron Strange Blackmere 4th Baron Talbot 2 x Great Grand Son of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Theobald Butler
Great x 3 Grandfather: Edmund Butler 1st Earl Carrick
Great x 4 Grandmother: Joan Fitzjohn
Great x 2 Grandfather: James Butler 1st Earl Ormonde
Great x 1 Grandmother: Petronella Butler Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Humphrey Bohun 3rd Earl Hereford 2nd Earl Essex
Great x 3 Grandfather: Humphrey Bohun 4th Earl Hereford 3rd Earl Essex
Great x 4 Grandmother: Maud Fiennes Countess Essex and Hereford
Great x 2 Grandmother: Eleanor Bohun Countess Ormonde Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: King Edward I of England Son of King Henry III of England
Great x 3 Grandmother: Princess Elizabeth of Rhuddlan Countess Essex, Hereford and Holland Daughter of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Eleanor of Castile Queen Consort England 2 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England
Father: John "Old Talbot" Talbot 1st Earl of Shrewsbury 3 x Great Grand Son of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Robert Strange
Great x 3 Grandfather: Fulk Strange 1st Baron Strange Blackmere
Great x 4 Grandmother: Eleanor Blancminster
Great x 2 Grandfather: John Strange 2nd Baron Strange Blackmere 3 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: John Giffard 1st Baron Giffard Brimpsfield 4 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 3 Grandmother: Eleanor Giffard Baroness Strange Blackmere 2 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Maud Clifford Great Grand Daughter of King John of England
Great x 1 Grandfather: John Strange 4th Baron Strange Blackmere 4 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: William Boteler
Great x 3 Grandfather: William Boteler 1st Baron Wem and Oversley
Great x 4 Grandmother: Angharad Mathrafal
Great x 2 Grandmother: Ankaret Boteler Baroness Strange Blackmere 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Roger Herdeburgh
Great x 3 Grandmother: Ela Herdeburgh Baroness Wem and Oversley 3 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Ida Odingsells Baroness Clinton 2 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England
GrandMother: Ankaret Strange 7th Baroness Strange Blackmere, Baroness Talbot 5 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: John Fitzalan 7th Earl of Arundel 5 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 3 Grandfather: Richard Fitzalan 8th Earl of Arundel 3 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Isabella Mortimer Countess Arundel 2 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England
Great x 2 Grandfather: Edmund Fitzalan 9th Earl of Arundel 4 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 1 Grandmother: Mary Fitzalan Baroness Strange Blackmere 5 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: John Warenne 6th Earl of Surrey
Great x 3 Grandfather: William Warenne
Great x 4 Grandmother: Alice Lusignan Countess of Surrey
Great x 2 Grandmother: Alice Warenne Countess Arundel
Great x 4 Grandfather: Robert de Vere 5th Earl of Oxford
Great x 3 Grandmother: Joan Vere
Great x 4 Grandmother: Alice Sanford Countess of Oxford
Eleanor Talbot 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: William Beauchamp 9th Earl Warwick
Great x 3 Grandfather: Guy Beauchamp 10th Earl Warwick
Great x 4 Grandmother: Maud Fitzjohn Countess Warwick
Great x 2 Grandfather: Thomas Beauchamp 11th Earl Warwick 6 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Ralph Tosny 4 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 3 Grandmother: Alice Tosny Countess Warwick 5 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 1 Grandfather: Thomas Beauchamp 12th Earl Warwick 5 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Edmund Mortimer 2nd Baron Mortimer of Wigmore 2 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 3 Grandfather: Roger Mortimer 1st Earl March 3 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Margaret Fiennes 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England
Great x 2 Grandmother: Katherine Mortimer Countess Warwick 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Piers Geneville
Great x 3 Grandmother: Joan Geneville Baroness Mortimer 2nd Baroness Geneville 7 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Jeanne Lusignan 6 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
GrandFather: Richard Beauchamp 13th Earl Warwick 4 x Great Grand Son of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: William Ferrers 1st Baron Ferrers of Groby 5 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 3 Grandfather: Henry Ferrers 2nd Baron Ferrers of Groby 6 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Ellen or Margaret Segrave Baroness Ferrers Groby
Great x 2 Grandfather: William Ferrers 3rd Baron Ferrers of Groby 2 x Great Grand Son of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Theobald Verdun 2nd Lord Verdun
Great x 3 Grandmother: Isabel Verdun Baroness Ferrers Groby Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Elizabeth Clare Lady Verdun Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England
Great x 1 Grandmother: Margaret Ferrers Countess Warwick 3 x Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Henry Percy 9th and 1st Baron Percy
Great x 3 Grandfather: Henry Percy 10th and 2nd Baron Percy 5 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Eleanor Fitzalan Baroness Percy 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England
Great x 2 Grandmother: Margaret Percy Baroness Ferrers Groby 5 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Robert Clifford 1st Baron Clifford 6 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 3 Grandmother: Idonia Clifford Baroness Percy 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Maud Clare Baroness Clifford Baroness Welles 3 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England
Mother: Margaret Beauchamp Countess Shrewsbury and Waterford 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Maurice Berkeley 7th and 2nd Baron Berkeley 2 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 3 Grandfather: Thomas Rich Berkeley 8th and 3rd Baron Berkeley 3 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Eva Zouche
Great x 2 Grandfather: Maurice Berkeley 9th and 4th Baron Berkeley 4 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Roger Mortimer 1st Earl March 3 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 3 Grandmother: Margaret Mortimer Baroness Berkeley 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Joan Geneville Baroness Mortimer 2nd Baroness Geneville 7 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 1 Grandfather: Thomas Berkeley 10th and 5th Baron Berkeley, Baron Lisle 2 x Great Grand Son of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Hugh "Elder" Despencer 1st Earl Winchester 4 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 3 Grandfather: Hugh "Younger" Despencer 1st Baron Despencer 5 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Isabella Beauchamp Baroness Monthermer
Great x 2 Grandmother: Elizabeth Despencer Baroness Berkeley Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Gilbert "Red Earl" Clare 7th Earl Gloucester 6th Earl Hertford 4 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England
Great x 3 Grandmother: Eleanor Clare Baroness Zouche Mortimer Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Joan of Acre Countess Gloucester and Hertford Daughter of King Edward I of England
GrandMother: Elizabeth Berkeley Countess Warwick 3 x Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Warin Lisle
Great x 3 Grandfather: Gerard Lisle 1st Baron Lisle
Great x 4 Grandmother: Alice Tyeys
Great x 2 Grandfather: Warin Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle 6 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandfather: Edmund Fitzalan 9th Earl of Arundel 4 x Great Grand Son of King John of England
Great x 3 Grandmother: Eleanor Fitzalan 5 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England
Great x 4 Grandmother: Alice Warenne Countess Arundel
Great x 1 Grandmother: Margaret Lisle Baroness Berkeley 3rd Baroness Lisle 7 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England
Great x 3 Grandfather: William Pipard
Great x 2 Grandmother: Margaret Pipard Baroness Lisle