William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu 1093-1172

Before 9th September 1087 [his father] Robert II Belleme 2nd Count Ponthieu 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury [aged 31] and [his mother] Agnes Ponthieu Countess Ponthieu and Shrewsbury [aged 7] were married. The difference in their ages was 24 years. She the daughter of [his grandfather] Guy aka Wido I Count of Ponthieu [aged 67]. He the son of Roger "The Great" Montgomery 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and Mabel de Bellême.

Around 1093 William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu was born to Robert II Belleme 2nd Count Ponthieu 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury [aged 37] and Agnes Ponthieu Countess Ponthieu and Shrewsbury [aged 13].

In 1094 [his grandfather] Roger "The Great" Montgomery 1st Earl of Shrewsbury died. His succeeded son [his uncle] Hugh Montgomery 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury [aged 36] succeeded 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury 1C 1071. His succeeded son [his father] Robert [aged 38] succeeded 2nd Count Ponthieu. [his mother] Agnes Ponthieu Countess Ponthieu and Shrewsbury [aged 14] by marriage Countess Ponthieu.

In June 1095 Bertrand Count of Toulouse and [his future wife] Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu [aged 15] were married. She the daughter of Odo "Red" I Duke Burgundy [aged 37] and Sybilla Ivrea Duchess Burgundy [aged 30]. He the son of Raymond Rouerge IV Count Toulouse [aged 54] and Elvira Alfónsez Jiménez Queen Consort Sicily [aged 15].

On 13th October 1100 [his grandfather] Guy aka Wido I Count of Ponthieu [aged 80] died. His succeeded daughter [his mother] Agnes [aged 20] succeeded I Countess Ponthieu. [his father] Robert II Belleme 2nd Count Ponthieu 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury [aged 44] by marriage Count Ponthieu.

After 1105 [his mother] Agnes Ponthieu Countess Ponthieu and Shrewsbury [deceased] died. Her succeeded son William [aged 12] succeeded Count Ponthieu.

Around 1115 William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu [aged 22] and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu [aged 35] were married. Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu by marriage Countess Ponthieu. She the daughter of Odo "Red" I Duke Burgundy and Sybilla Ivrea Duchess Burgundy. He the son of Robert II Belleme 2nd Count Ponthieu 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury [aged 59] and Agnes Ponthieu Countess Ponthieu and Shrewsbury. They were fourth cousin once removed.

Before 1116 [his brother-in-law] Hugh II Duke Burgundy [aged 31] and Felicia Matilda Mayenne Duchess Burgundy were married. She by marriage Duchess Burgundy. He the son of Odo "Red" I Duke Burgundy and Sybilla Ivrea Duchess Burgundy.

Anglo-Saxon Chronicle. 1120. This year were reconciled the King of England [aged 52] and the King of France [aged 38]; and after their reconciliation all the King Henry's own men accorded with him in Normandy, as well as the Earl of Flanders [aged 36] and the Earl of Ponthieu [aged 27]. From this time forward the King Henry settled his castles and his land in Normandy [Map] after his will; and so before Advent came to this land.

Around 1120 [his son] Guy Montgomery II Count Ponthieu was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu [aged 27] and [his wife] Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu [aged 40]. He married before 1147 Ida Countess Ponthieu and had issue.

After 1130 [his father] Robert II Belleme 2nd Count Ponthieu 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury [deceased] died. His succeeded son William [aged 37] succeeded III Count Ponthieu.

Before 1137 [his son-in-law] William Warenne 3rd Earl of Surrey [aged 17] and Adela Montgomery Countess of Salisbury and Surrey were married. She the daughter of William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu [aged 43] and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu [aged 56]. He the son of William Warenne 2nd Earl of Surrey and Elizabeth Capet Countess Leicester, Meulan and Surrey. They were third cousin once removed.

On 28th February 1141 [his wife] Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu [aged 61] died.

Before 1147 Guy Montgomery II Count Ponthieu [aged 26] and Ida Countess Ponthieu were married. She by marriage Countess Ponthieu. He the son of William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu [aged 53] and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

On 25th December 1147 Guy Montgomery II Count Ponthieu [aged 27] died of disease whilst on Crusade. His succeeded son John Montgomery I Count Ponthieu [aged 7] succeeded I Count Ponthieu.

Before 1149 [his daughter] Philippa Montgomery died.

In 1149 [his son-in-law] Patrick of Salisbury 1st Earl Salisbury [aged 27] and Adela Montgomery Countess of Salisbury and Surrey were married. Adela Montgomery Countess of Salisbury and Surrey by marriage Countess Salisbury. She the daughter of William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu [aged 56] and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

After 1166 [his son] William Montgomery died.

After 1171 [his son] Robert Montgomery died.

In 1172 William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu [aged 79] died.

[his son] William Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his son] Robert Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his son] William Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his daughter] Philippa Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his daughter] Adela Montgomery Countess of Salisbury and Surrey was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu. She married (1) before 1137 her third cousin once removed William Warenne 3rd Earl of Surrey, son of William Warenne 2nd Earl of Surrey and Elizabeth Capet Countess Leicester, Meulan and Surrey, and had issue (2) 1149 Patrick of Salisbury 1st Earl Salisbury, son of Walter of Salisbury 2nd Baron Chitterne and Sybilla Chaworth Baroness Chitterne, and had issue.

[his son] Robert Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his daughter] Clemence Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his daughter] Mabile Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his son] Enguerrand Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

History of the Dukes of Normandy by William of Jumieges. Now this William¹ was the son of Robert of Bellême, born of the daughter of Guy, Count of Ponthieu. This Robert, because of his extreme cruelty, was hated both by the king himself and by many other wise men. When he was at last placed in chains, in which he also died, the most noble King Henry seized his stronghold called Bellême and gave it to Rotrou, Count of Perche, his kinsman². Although the region of Bellême did not belong to the duchy of Normandy but to the kingdom of Franks, King Philip of the Franks had long before granted, or as some say sold, the lordship of that region to his cousin William the Elder, King of the English and Duke of the Normans.

Fuit autem hic Willelmus filius Roberti de Bellismo, natus ex filia Widonis comitis Pontivi. Qui Robertus ob nimiam crudelitatem ipsi regi et cæteris multis sapientibus viris exosus habebatur. Ipso denique in vinculis posito, in quibus et defecit, rex Henricus nobilissimus oppidum ejusdem nomine Bellismum cepit et illud Rotroco comiti Perticenci genere suo dedit. Licet pagus Bellis mensis non ad ducatum Northmanniæ pertineret, sed ad regnum Francorum, dederat tamen dominium ejusdem pagi, vel, ut quidam dicunt, vendiderat dudum Philippus rex Francorum cognato suo Willelmo seniori regi Anglorum et duci Northmannorum.

Note 1. William Talvas, around 1093-1171, III Count of Ponthieu, son of Robert of Bellême, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury, and Agnes of Ponthieu, daughter of Guy aka Wido, I Count of Ponthieu.

Note 2. Routrou, 1080-1144, known as 'The Great', Count of Perche, married Matilda Fitzroy Countess Perche, illegitimate daughter of King Henry I.

[his son] John Montgomery I Count Alençon was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu. He married before 1185 his fourth cousin once removed Beatrix of Maine and had issue.